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Omega vs. Breitling & Rolex

I was just given an Omega Planet Ocean 45mm Orange bezel. Is this watch in the same class of a Breitling and Rolex Submariner?
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Well, it's going to depend on what class you think Breitling and Rolex are in.

Regardless... Omega, Breitling, Rolex make high quality, mass produced sports watches.
Omega f300 Tuning Fork, Omega Speedmaster Professional "Snoopy Award" Limited Edition 3578.51.00, Porsche Design by IWC 3702, Omega Seamaster CK 2518 (c. 343), Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish A17360
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If you read the Rolex forum faq, you'll find, "I can't decided
between the Omega Seamaster and the Rolex Submariner, which one
should I get?" You'll find the answer, "They're both good, get
whichever one you want." They are both high quality sport watches. "One nuclear weapon can ruin your whole day"
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to say that I think Omega builds a better watch. Omega: Seamaster Aqua Terra; '67 Speedmaster Professional; '60 Pie Pan Constellation. Rolex: Datejust 116234. Others: misc. vintage pieces.
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"Semper Ubi Sub Ubi"
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There's better more expensive and less well known High-Grade makers watches and there are MANY more Lower-Grade offerings.
Some are better value-for-the-money than others.

Rolex, Breitling and Omega are all well made watches, you'll have to decide for yourself which ones are upper-mid-grade or lower-mid-grade. That's what makes this fun !

Best, Jeff B Mike Hailwood 1967:
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I would have to say that the Planet Ocean is a better watch than the Sub. Don't know much about Breitling's but I believe it uses the same base movement as most of the comparable Breitling's, with more extensive modification, including the coaxial escapement. However, compared to the Breitling Superocean, the PO might not seem as good a value. The SO has greater WR than the PO, and is priced less.

Vs the Sub, it has better wr, has the coaxial proprietary technology, a more solid-feeling bracelet, double AR coating, and its a truer proportion dive watch, ie larger than the Sub. Oh, did I mention its a couple grand less? Clearly a better value for a better watch.

Your question however, was are they in the same class? In general, yes they are considered in the same class. Depending on who you ask, though, you will get a different response. Clearly Rolex is more expensive then the two and certainly more widely recognized. Does that make them better? If you believe marketing and public perception, then maybe, but when you look at the nuts and bolts, all three are comparable. I don't grow the beans, I just count them
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In a word...yes & no...
I think it depends on which model you're comparing the PO to.

I have a PO chronograph & I LOVE IT!! Everything, about it, the size, weight, anti-glare, comfort ( great braclet!!)...and AWESOME design, I like the fact the the co-axial is a little more technically advanced too( or so the promotional material tells me ).
I had a ROLEX SD & sold it, for a LONG time I saved for it, and when I bought it was the most amazing thing! My wife by my side to share the moment.
I'v also own a BREITLING,a CHRONOMAT LONGITUDE, which I'm in the process of selling. Great watch, but I found that I hardly wore both the ROLEX or BREITLING.

I think from a design point of view, there's something special about the PO, it's certainly shows it's pedigree when you look at it but is also ultra-modern. I would say that the PO is a class slightly above the ROLLIE or BREITLING. But at the end of the day you just have to like the look of the thing on your wrist , whether a SEIKO or ZENITH, CASIO or PANERAI. I think from a quality point of view, the OMEGA is better and this may sound stupid, but whichever speaks to you the loudest is the one for you. But as MIKE said they're all mass-produced watches,so I think they've certainly ironed out any quality issues. A PO as a gift...you're very lucky!! Enjoy it!!
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More or less, along with the Aquatimer. Each person has an opinion about one or the other dive watches. The time has come, the Walrus said, to talk of many things: of shoes--and ships--and sealing wax--of cabbages and kings....
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Hi there.

Threre are some difference:


1.

The steel on Rolex is 904 L and Omega 314 L. The 904 L is a bit stronger to asid and IMO less easy to scarcth. The steel cost 3 times as much as 314 L. However the 904 L steel is always very nice and shinning. Even after 40 years. Not many 314 L steels are like that. Still however the brachlet is about 20 - 30 % more expensive on the PO model compared too Rolex SS brachlets.


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The Rolexmovment needs service every 5 - 6 years. The Omega co-axl needs service every 7 - 10 years.


3.

Rolex has sparepartsguarenty for 30 + years after a model is disconected. Usely a model is disconedted after 20 - 30 years

Omega about 15 + years. Models usely are disconeted after 6 - 8 and 15 years. The socalled Omega Mars watch with digital diggits and numbers, was disconted only a few years after its arrival.


The resalevalue of Rolex sportswatches are very high. Usely loss of value is 15 - 20 % after 1 - 5 years. Omega PO and Seamaster is more like 25 - 40 % after 1 - 5 years.

Rolex donates 10 % of there turnover to good socalled good perperes. Like watchmakerschools, Golf, Tennis, healt ect.

Omega does not as far as I know.


I have a 1980 Rolex OQ model 17013. But the one you turned down. The 45 mm. PO orange bezel will be my next superwatch. I might buy it brand new or one that is up to 2 years old.




Regards

Nick
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"Semper Ubi Sub Ubi"
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" 1.The steel on Rolex is 904 L and Omega 314 L. The 904 L is a bit stronger to asid and IMO less easy to scarcth. The steel cost 3 times as much as 314 L. However the 904 L steel is always very nice and shinning. Even after 40 years. Not many 314 L steels are like that. Still however the brachlet is about 20 - 30 % more expensive on the PO model compared too Rolex SS brachlets."

Actually Omega uses 316 grade stainless, the same grade steel that JLC, IWC, Patek and every other maker putting out quality steel watches uses. While 904 is more costly than 316 realisitically you are speaking about pennies when purchased in volume. As for the "lustre" I have for a while proported that the higher nickle content of 904 changes the visual properties slightly, however there has never been a truly objective study to show that 904 is any more or 316 is any less resilliant to wear and tear, and many feel the stamped nature of components along with a heavy brush finish allow certain watches to mask wear better than those which use milled components and a "finer" brush pattern applied.

As for cost one must note that the Rolex bracelets, specifically on the Submariner and SeaDweller are of a hollow design, the center links are simply tubes flattened into shape, plus the clasp is stamped sheet metal, whereas the Omega bracelets for quite some time have all been of solid construction, which includes milled pushbutton clasps. A more reasonable comparison would be the cost of the new solid construction Rolex bracelets which also feature milled clasps, and interestingly enough I have read more than a few reports of these showing far more wear and tear than their older hollow counterparts, again something that would point to the construction and or milling process vs. that of stamping metal.

"2. The Rolexmovment needs service every 5 - 6 years. The Omega co-axl needs service every 7 - 10 years."

This is accurate however I thought Omega moved away from the ten year mark.

"3. Rolex has spare parts guarenty for 30 + years after a model is disconected. Usely a model is disconedted after 20 - 30 years

Omega about 15 + years. Models usely are disconeted after 6 - 8 and 15 years. The so called Omega Mars watch with digital diggits and numbers, was disconted only a few years after its arrival."

Again accurate if going from their printed guidelines, however it should be noted that Omega has a much much better track record of servicing vintage pieces far greater than 30 years old, they might replace parts with newer ones or others that will make the piece work but not be identical to what was standard equipment at the time, but they will at least work on the piece and typically they will provide you with your old removed parts upon completion of service...contrast that with Rolex who regularly deny service on watches over 30 years old and will not under any circumstance provide you with old parts.

"The resalevalue of Rolex sportswatches are very high. Usely loss of value is 15 - 20 % after 1 - 5 years. Omega PO and Seamaster is more like 25 - 40 % after 1 - 5 years."

Only if you are talking retail price on the Omega, with Rolex you really have no option but to pay retail, but I always assert I would have lost alot less money buying and reselling Omega than I ever have with Rolex, the resale is good no doubt about it, but it isn't any better than any number of brands "bought right" IMHO.

"Rolex donates 10 % of there turnover to good socalled good perperes. Like watchmakerschools, Golf, Tennis, healt ect.

Omega does not as far as I know."

To say or even imply that Omega and more importantly their parent company Swatch does little to support the industry and or the arts IMHO is doing the company a gross disservice, many luxury companies are highly charitable as they know it is good PR, while I don't have any hard data I would be surprised if Swatch/Omega did nothing and figure they do at least as much as their competition in this regard.


"Semper Ubi Sub Ubi"
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Amen. ~PANTON VEL NUSQUAM~ ***The following link to AWCI will help you find a Certified Watchmaker/Repair Facility in your area:http://www.watch-clock-makers.org/ *** - 2001: A Space Odyssey
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I also have a Rolex GMT II, but I love my PO even MO :) I'm not a hotdog, I'm just trying to be frank.
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They are too close for me to justify shelling out the extra for Rolex. Both are very nice watches, I would buy the one you like the best. Since I have an Omega, my Submariner sits on the winder. I do think that Rolex two-tone sports watches look great - especially the Submariner, but if I was buying again, as I said, I would not put the extra cash into a Rollie.

But the real test is how they perform over time and I have not had the Omega GMT long enough to measure that. Ask me in 10 years :>)
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Though I enjoy the older watches (and have a lot of them), but it's my newer Omegas that get all the wrist time.
I have an arange bezel PO 45.5 and a Speedmaster 3750.50 that basically have pushed my Datejust out of bed. Snak
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Sounds like you got very lucky. Thats a nice watch and if someone says "gee why not a Rolex" then you should say "why not a Patek?"
Rolex is widely known but, that doesnt make it the best.
Omega is a widely known watch brand. That doesnt make it the best or second best.
It's well known among WIS that the brands you mention are not the absolute top in quality, finish or price. If all you need is the best known watch then maybe you should trade it on a Rolex. I like that Omega has been a bit adventurous in it's styling. On the other hand I wish that when Omega finds a hit they keep it around longer and let it develop into a classic.
Breitling is a great watch also. It's up to you. Maybe you should have chosen the watch instead of the person that bought it. You could always post a WTT on the sales corner for what you want. Otherwise enjoy your great watch.

Thanks, Harold ___________________________________________________________________________ interested in precision cars, guns and now obsessing over watches. Swiss- Omega 2254.50 SMP,1968 Breitling Datora Chronograph, Stainless/Black datejust| Japan- Seiko Sport Kinetic,Seiko Black monster, Casio diver, Vintage seiko dress watch
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I once saw a test ion the storn ness of the steel.

The 904 was a bit tougher.

Here is what I found, that somebody else wrote on here:

"SOME STEEL IS MORE AMBITIOUS THAN OTHERS.

Only Rolex uses 904L steel for its steel watch cases. 904L is a super alloy usually reserved for the chemical industries, where maximum resistance against corrosion is essential. Such resistance stems from 904L's higher chromium content, which forms a thin, impervious barrier on the alloy's surface when exposed to oxygen. In the event of a scratch, the chromium oxide barrier fills and protects it immediately, effectively reducing the scratch's propensity for corrosion. 904L steel is so hard that Rolex even had to develop special equipment to machine it. A mighty 250-ton press is necessary just to stamp out a single oyster case from a solid block of 904L. When it comes to ensuring the lasting beauty of your watch, no measure is too extreme for Rolex."



But I do admit, that when it comes to wathes, it may not matter much.



Regards

Nick
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All three are indeed mid-level.

Chris "Why is it that every time I think I know the answers, someone goes and changes the questions?"-------------------------------------------
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